The Law

With Mac Macartney & Special Guests

What does it mean to be human in these uncertain times?

What would it take to truly belong on this earth?

How might we start the task of restoring balance and connection between ourselves and the rest of the living natural world?

For the next year, we will be hosting a conversation that brings together the elders and spokes-people of western and indigenous wisdom traditions, those who believe that the only way forward for human-kind is to remember our place within the rest of nature.

Together, we will be searching for guidelines and principles that remind us how to fit within our ecological niche, as individuals, as one unified human species, and most importantly, as a part of the family of all life.

We will be looking to remember The Law of Nature. Western Science, capitalism, colonialism, extractivism… the processes that have led to our separation from the natural world and each other, have caused us to forget that the only one way that we can survive on this planet is to respect The Law of Nature.

Where is this Law held? Is it held in the earth-based and wisdom traditions? Can we recover it by deep listening to the land and the more-than-human world itself? Is it lodged in our collective memory as a human species? What are the principles upon which the law is based? Is the Law the same wherever we are on the Earth, or is it different in different places?

These are some of the questions we will be asking, please join us.

Is this for you?

The Law is a series of 6 conversations that will be held online. We have chosen this format so that as many people as possible can join this crucial discussion at this time, and also that we can hear from people around the world. Each session will be 2 hours long, and will include speakers, sharings and time for discussion.

There will be a community forum for participants to stay in touch with each other.

The law says if you poison the water, you’ll die. The law says that if you poison the air, you’ll suffer. The law says if you degrade where you live, you’ll suffer. … If you don’t learn that, you can only suffer. There’s no discussion with this law. 

Oren Lyons

Key information:


  • 30th March 7 – 9pm
  • 4th May 7 – 9pm
  • 22nd June 7 – 9pm
  • 21 September 7 – 9pm
  • 9 November 7 – 9pm
  • 21 December 7 – 9pm

Online via Zoom. A recording will be available to participants.

Times are for London UK. Find times in your local time zone here.

FEE: £75

Or FREE with our Fire Circle membership

Facilitator details

Mac Macartney

In 1999 Mac founded Embercombe. At which time he was also the founder and CEO of a leadership consultancy for corporate executives operating internationally between 1989-2005. Over a period of twenty years Mac was mentored and coached by a group of Native American teachers. During this training and ever since he has attempted to bring two worlds together – an ancient world view that emphasises relationship, interdependence, and reverence for life with the huge challenges and equally huge opportunities of the 21st Century. You can find out more about Mac’s work here.

Sharon Blackie

Dr. Sharon Blackie is an award-winning writer and international teacher whose work sits at the interface of psychology, mythology and ecology. Her highly acclaimed books, courses, lectures and workshops are focused on the development of the mythic imagination, and on the relevance of our native myths, fairy tales and folk traditions to the personal, social and environmental problems we face today.

Carolyn Hillyer

Carolyn Hillyer

Carolyn has written 12 solo albums and co-created many others with Nigel. Her early albums (House of the Weavers, Grandmother Turtle) have come to occupy an iconic place within women’s sacred music and other recordings (Weathered Edge, Cave of Elders, Wyched Wombe) have, over three decades, defined the essence and edges of her unusual perspective on women’s spiritual journeys and ancient mythological landscape. She has accumulated a potent collection of songs and chants born from hearth mysteries, feral trails, the weave of magic and the power of sister circles, recently including her first album of spoken tales (Winter Folded Everything) and a collection of vintage songs (This Place of Herons). Her paintings of life-size archetypal spirit women have been exhibited many times as shrine installations. Her books include the exceptionally popular Weavers’ Oracle, newly published song collection Wild Litany, original interpretation of the Proto-Celtic language Her Bone Bundle, as well as the series of volumes Book of Hag and classic work Sacred House. For over 30 years she has been teaching a series of powerful workshop journeys for women that braid together ritual song, intuitive ceremony, ancient initiations and direct interaction with wild land (now including an online teaching programme). She is founder of Thirteen Moons women’s festival.

Lyla June Jonston

Lyla June Johnston

Lyla June Johnston is an Indigenous public speaker, artist, scholar and community organizer of Diné (Navajo), Tsétsêhéstâhese (Cheyenne) and European lineages from Taos, New Mexico. Her messages focus on Indigenous rights, supporting youth, traditional land stewardship practices and healing inter-generational and inter-cultural trauma.

Tiokasin Ghosthorse

Tiokasin Ghosthorse is a member of the Cheyenne River Lakota Nation of South Dakota and has a long history with Indigenous activism and advocacy. Tiokasin is the Founder, Host and Executive Producer of “First Voices Radio” (formerly “First Voices Indigenous Radio”) for the last 27 years in New York City and Seattle/Olympia, Washington. In 2016, he received a nomination for the Nobel Peace Prize from the International Institute of Peace Studies and Global Philosophy. Other recent recognitions include: Native Arts and Cultures Foundation National Fellowship in Music (2016), National Endowment for the Arts National Heritage Fellowship Nominee (2017), Indigenous Music Award Nominee for Best Instrumental Album (2019) and National Native American Hall of Fame Nominee (2018, 2019). He was also awarded New York City’s Peacemaker of the Year in 2013. Tiokasin is a “perfectly flawed human being.”